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    Sig Romeo MSR 1X20mm Red Dot & Juliet3 Micro Magnifier $219.99 FREES&H


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    Sig Sauer SORJ72001 Romeo MSR 1X20mm Red Dot & Juliet3 Micro Magnifier

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    Romeo MSR 1X20mm Red Dot & Juliet3 Micro Magnifier

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    The ROMEO-MSR is a sealed compact red dot or green dot sight intended for MSR, carbine, shotgun and air rifle. Brightness is adjusted with a top-mounted rotary dial, featuring 10 daytime and 2 night vision settings for quick target engagement in any condition. The JULIET3 3x micro Magnifier is designed to work as a stand-alone magnification solution or in conjunction with reflex optics.

    This family of magnifiers is an excellent choice for transitioning from close quarters to intermediate ranged targets. In conjunction with a reflex optic, the JULIET3 can be adjusted for height through the use of spacers.

    This combo combines the ROMEO-MSR red dot sight with the JULIET3 3x MIRCO magnifier.

    Tactical Deal: Sig Romeo MSR 1X20mm Red Dot & Juliet3 Micro Magnifier $219.99 FREES&H

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    German Sniper with Remington Mk 21 Precision Sniper Rifle -The Firearm Blog

    Turkish Special Forces Sniper with Remington Mk 21 Precision Sniper Rifle

    Photo Of The Day: Right above is a German soldier engaging long-range targets in the middle of the night. He’s using a Remington Mk 21 Precision Sniper Rifle at the International Specialty Training Center (ISTC) Alpine Sniper Course, in Hochfilzen training area, Austria. The Alpine Sniper Course went on for two weeks and was designed to teach and train sniper teams the necessary skills to operate in mountainous terrain.

    The photographer Sgt. Patrik Orcutt is highly skilled and we’ve seen many top-quality photos from him, and we hope he keeps them coming. Here he really caught the moment with what’s left of the muzzle flash. As you can see, the rifle is equipped with a lot of interesting gadgets, like LRD, Thermal clip-on and suppressor.

    Below we see a Turkish Special Forces Sniper. He’s also using the Remington Mk 21 Sniper Rifle.

    Also check – Remington MSR: The Special Forces MK 21 Sniper Rifle.


    Photo Source: U.S. Army, Sgt. Patrik Orcutt


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    An MP7-Style PDW in 300 BLK? A Crye Patent Suggests So! -The Firearm Blog

    Searching for firearm patents online can be an interesting way to spend one’s time. It offers a deeper insight into known models and, sometimes, it offers some rather pleasant surprises. One of such events happened to a reader, who tipped us about a patent for a PDW-style firearm recently granted to inventor Caleb Crye, of Crye Precision fame.

    Crye Precision @ TFB:

    An MP7-Style PDW in 300 BLK? A Crye Patent Suggests So! – An embodiment of the patent, with stock extended

    An MP7-Style PDW in 300 BLK? A Crye Patent Suggests So!

    Crye PDW – The Brief

    The patent US 11,105,574 B1, generically titled “Firearm”, covers a hypothetical “compact rifle-caliber firearm” conceived to provide advantages over current existing layouts.

    As you can guess, the patent discloses solutions that would enable rifle caliber cartridges to be fed through the grip of the firearm. While the advantages of this configuration and the limitations that made it so far not viable may sound obvious to the TFB reader, the patent analyses them in-depth, and so shall we.

    Crye PDW – ANALYSis of the current compact firearms

    The document identifies three main configurations of automatic (or semi-automatic) repeating firearms, based on the location of the feeding assembly relative to the grip:

    1. Magazine in front of the grip;
    2. Magazine behind the grip (i.e. bullpup);
    3. Magazine through the grip.

    With a focus on compact firearms, configurations 1 and 3 are shown as capable of employing collapsible or folding stocks. Although the patent does not mention any specific model, as we’ll see later we can consider the SIG MCX Rattler the benchmark for the “forward-fed” AR-style firearm. This weapon is relatively compact as it sacrifices barrel length to achieve this goal.

    Crye PDW - SIG MCX Rattler by Pete

    An MP7-Style PDW in 300 BLK? A Crye Patent Suggests So! – SIG MCX Rattler, a compact, forward-fed firearm chambered in .300BLK (Image Credit: Pete @ TFB)

    The bullpup reference as well is purely theoretical, however, since it is inferred it should be chambered in a full-sized rifle cartridge (5.56×45 NATO or bigger), and it may be fired one-handed, we like to think that the Bushmaster Arm-Pistol fits the bill. This layout is shown as capable of reducing overall length while preserving a suitably long barrel, to deliver the required ballistic performance.

    Crye PDW - Bushmaster Arm Pistol bullpup.

    An MP7-Style PDW in 300 BLK? A Crye Patent Suggests So! – Bushmaster Arm-Pistol, a compact, rearward-fed firearm chambered in 5.56×45 mm – accessories not included (Image Credit: Nick C. – @solscud007)

    The firearm fed through the grip is described as employing pistol caliber cartridges, offering the shortest layout (with stock folded/collapsed) together with the disadvantage of limited ballistics performance. We can think of the B&T MP9 to fit this role.

    Crye PDW - B&T MP9

    An MP7-Style PDW in 300 BLK? A Crye Patent Suggests So! – B&T MP9, a compact firearm fed through the grip and chambered in 9mm Luger (Image Credit: B&T)

    The analysis of the prior art concludes that, currently, having full-power rifle cartridges fed through the grip is not possible as the grip would end up being too large to allow comfortable operation of the firearm. Indeed, the closest attempt we can think of is the Russian AO-46 PDW prototype, which completely ditched the grip, replacing it with the magazine itself.

    Crye PDW – TECHNICAL SOLUTIONS

    The intent of the inventor is to solve the above-mentioned limitation, i.e. to offer a compact rifle-caliber firearm that can feed relatively long ammunition through a grip small enough to be handled by shooters other than André the Giant.

    The document mentions “5.56×45 mm NATO , 7.62×39 mm , 7.62x51 mm NATO, 300 AAC Blackout, as well as other 6.5 mm variants, 0.50 variants, 0.300 variants, and 0.338 variants” as calibers of interest. The option of 7.62×51 mm may seem a bit excessive, with its 2.80″ overall length, while the wide range of AR-15-sized cartridges, 2.26″ overall, may be the main candidates of the development. The cross-sections of the loaded firearm depicted in the patent appear to show .300 BLK rounds.

    Cry PDW cross-section

    An MP7-Style PDW in 300 BLK? A Crye Patent Suggests So! – An embodiment of the patent, with stock collapsed; cross-section with .300 BLK looking rounds

    The goal of feeding multiple cartridges through a grip of depth smaller than the cartridge length is achieved by the novel design through the concurrent influence of grip and magazine angles, follower angle, and ultimately cartridge angle. The rounds are meant to modify their orientation relative to the bore axis, in order to allow smooth feeding, once their reach the magazine lips. This may be achieved through the magazine shape and the presence of a two-piece follower, with its rearward part capable of pivoting up under spring pressure.

    Crye PDW mag follower

    An MP7-Style PDW in 300 BLK? A Crye Patent Suggests So! – The two-piece magazine follower

    Quite a few trigonometry evaluations are involved and several potential angles are covered by the patent.

    Crye PDW mag

    An MP7-Style PDW in 300 BLK? A Crye Patent Suggests So! – Cross-section of the magazine clearly showing how angled rounds can fit in space shorter than their length and how their angle must vary to allow chambering

    The document shows how this compact rifle-caliber firearm can be beneficial, in its hypothetical embodiments, both in terms of controllability and portability. The former is achieved through a center of balance closer to the shooter’s hand, compared to the other configurations. The portability is easily achieved as the firearm can be holstered not much differently than a common pistol.

    Crye PDW holsterability

    An MP7-Style PDW in 300 BLK? A Crye Patent Suggests So! – The compact rifle-caliber firearm holstered next to a Glock-style pistol and a SIG Rattler-style firearm

    The inventor does not disclose anything about the operating system, although the cross-sections show hints of a rotating-head bolt, likely gas-operated.

    Crye PDW – Conclusions

    We do not know if the solutions covered in this patent have already been tested in actual prototypes or they are just theoretical. Surely the details of some of the models used in the drawings suggest a fairly advanced stage of design.

    Crye PDW - stock collapsed

    An MP7-Style PDW in 300 BLK? A Crye Patent Suggests So! – An embodiment of the patent, with stock collapsed

    As we all know, proper automatic feeding of a firearm is one of the biggest hurdles in firearm design,  resulting in many new models employing proven magazines. This novel approach would definitely be bold, and, if truly functional, surely a breath of fresh air in the industry.

    Would you love to have an MP7-style firearm chambered in .300 BLK or .223 Remington? We can only hope that the project is under development with a manufacturer and that we’ll soon see a suppressed version floating in the woods in Pete’s neighborhood.

    Crye PDW - folded stock

    An MP7-Style PDW in 300 BLK? A Crye Patent Suggests So! – An embodiment of the patent, with folded stock


    All images from Patent US 11,105,574 B1 (United States Patent and Trademark Office), unless otherwise stated.

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    Politicians and Media Are Misleading Misleading the Public on Armed Texans

    On the 2nd day of Christmas, more anti-gun measures from Bloomberg and Beto in Texas. IMG iStock-884200682

    U.S.A.-(AmmoLand.com)- It has been a month since Texans enjoyed carrying a firearm in public without a permit. At the beginning of September they joined tens of millions of us who already had permit-less carry. Nothing much happened in Texas. A few more honest citizens defended themselves.

    That isn’t what some politicians and law enforcement officers predicted. They said we would see extraordinary levels of violence in the streets after we let our neighbors carry in public. The media never examined those extravagant claims. Now, we can do what the news media failed to do.

    Houston Mayor Sylvester issued another press release about how dangerous honest gun owners can be unless they have a government license to carry concealed.

    “Under this (permit-less carry) bill, even a law-abiding citizen can become a danger.. They could become a danger to themselves and others due to mishandling a deadly weapon.. This flawed new law will have a harmful impact inside our neighborhoods and on our streets. Unregulated guns aggravate our public safety problems.”

    We can look at the news to see if the honest citizens of Houston who are legally allowed to own guns suddenly acted irresponsibly after this law took effect. I looked, and I didn’t see the holocaust the mayor predicted. In contrast, I can find many stories where criminals continued to break the law, but that is what criminals have always done. The mayor owes the honest gun owners in Houston an apology. The news media also owes us an apology for not checking the mayor’s story.

    Dallas police chief Eddie Garcia said that law-abiding gun owners should only be allowed to carry concealed in public if they pass a state-mandated training course. Remember that the open carry of a handgun without a license was, and remains, perfectly legal in Texas. Chief Garcia is saying that ordinary gun owners who were open carrying their personal firearms without a license would suddenly become monsters after they cover their holster with a piece of cloth. I don’t believe in magic shirts, but evidently, some police chiefs do.

    Chief Garcia also said his officers couldn’t tell the good guys from the bad guys without a piece of paper issued by the state. I can only conclude that there is a training issue with the once-great Dallas PD.

    Constitutional carry is already the law of the land in 21 other states. Law enforcement officers in those states learned to base their actions on people’s behavior.

    Speaking personally, I want people to get their carry license and continue training, but the policemen I know considered any stranger as a potential threat, license or no license. I suspect that the chief already knew that, but the chief assumed the reporters wouldn’t embarrass the chief with obvious facts. That says a lot about the chief’s reputation and the reputation of the news reporters too.

    The Austin interim police chief Joseph Chacon said that crime was rising to historic levels. Chacon is right, yet the chief wanted more honest citizens disarmed unless they get a permission slip from the state before they exercised their right of self-defense. Let’s be honest. Law enforcement officers are not interchangeable. Sheriffs are elected by the voters in their county, while Police Chiefs are appointed by politicians. The chief doesn’t have a political opinion of his own. He represents the political opinion of his boss. To be more precise, the chief’s opinion reflects the political leaning of the mayor’s campaign donors.

    We have not seen a surge in violence perpetrated by legal gun owners in Texas. I don’t expect to see one because that isn’t what happened in other states after they adopted constitutional carry.

    We have seen crime increase after big-city prosecutors let criminals walk away. That trend started before and continued after Texas adopted permit-less carry. Perhaps because of that political failing, we’ve seen more citizens protecting themselves and their families with a firearm, and doing a good job of it.

    I asked a few firearms instructors in Texas if they noticed any trends after constitutional carry took effect. The number of people in their licensing classes went up and down slightly, but they saw a large increase in the number of people who wanted training in armed defense. I’m not surprised because we’ve seen this before in other states.

    That is what I’d do if I was a new gun owner in Texas. That is what you’d do, and it turns out that our neighbors did too. Now we have to ask why the news media couldn’t figure that out.

    We’re lucky to have Ammoland.


    About Rob Morse

    The original article, with sources, is posted here. Rob Morse writes about gun rights at Ammoland, at Clash Daily, at Second Call Defense, and on his SlowFacts blog. He hosts the Self Defense Gun Stories Podcast and co-hosts the Polite Society Podcast. Rob was an NRA pistol instructor and combat handgun competitor.Rob Morse


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    Prepare For Fall Hunting EditionThe Firearm Blog

    TFB Podcast Roundup 14: Prepare For Fall Hunting Edition

    Welcome to TFB Podcast Roundup 14. As we ease into the fall hunting season I wanted to give you guys a solid lineup of hunting podcasts that will either get you in the mindset for this season or perhaps help you guys out as you prepare yourselves and your family for the sport. Hunting is a core part of American culture and in many ways is a lost art that younger generations are missing out on. This week I’ve put together a variety of podcasts from a few different creators that should get you thinking about your favorite hunting sport and or the best way to introduce your friends and loved ones into the fascinating and complex world of hunting.

    More Podcasts @ TFB:

    TFB Podcast Roundup 14: Prepare For Fall Hunting Edition

    TFB Podcast Roundup 14: Prepare For Fall Hunting Edition

    TFB Podcast Roundup 14: Prepare For Fall Hunting Edition

    The TFB B-Side Podcast: Adam S’s Top 5 Tips for Beginner Hunters

    Length: 45 Minutes

    Subjects: Tips for beginner hunters who don’t quite know how to get started in hunting sports

    The TFB B-Side podcast is our less industry-focused podcast where myself, the TFB crew and some special guests talk about everything and anything related to guns. I recently had on my good friend and fellow writer Adam S to talk about one of his favorite pass times – hunting. Adam is a very experienced hunter and is probably one of the most accomplished and experienced hunters I know personally. Adam’s 5 tips are great for those looking to introduce themselves to hunting and have no idea where to start.

    TFB Podcast Roundup 14: Prepare for Fall Hunting Edition

    TFB Podcast Roundup 14: Prepare For Fall Hunting Edition

    Listen to the TFB B-Side Podcast or the TFB Behind the Gun Podcast here

    Vortex Nation Podcast Episode 203 – Andy May – Kill More Bucks in Less Time

    Length: 86 Minutes

    Subjects: Andy May gives us tips for in and out of state and goes over his own hunting origin story.

    Kill more bucks in less time! Sound too good to be true? Some people are experts at deer management, Andy May is an expert at time management – when it comes to constantly taking quality bucks on quick hunts – in and out of state. He takes us through his hunting origin story and shares his hard-earned process for putting quality bucks on the ground all season long.

    This podcast is part of an entire series from the Vortex Nation podcast on their official Vortex Whitetail Week. 

    TFB Podcast Roundup 14: Prepare for Fall Hunting Edition

    TFB Podcast Roundup 14: Prepare For Fall Hunting Edition

    You can listen to the Vortex Nation podcast on Google Podcasts or for a more immersive experience listen to it on YouTube. 

    MeatEater: Wired to Hunt Episode 215: STEVEN RINELLA AND JANIS PUTELIS TALK WHITETAILS

    Length: 115 Minutes

    Subjects: All things whitetail hunting including stories, tips, practices, and news about the future of the Wired to Hunt podcast

    What You’ll Learn In This Episode:

    – The story of how I started and built Wired To Hunt

    – BIG news about the future of Wired To Hunt

    – An interesting look at the natural history of whitetails

    – A rallying cry for underdog species

    – The story of Steve and Janis’ first deer and other related stories

    – Eating your first deer

    – The most impactful experiences in our early hunting careers

    – Rinella and Putelis’ take on Baiting VS Food plots

    – Public land hunting VS private land hunting

    – Hunting the West VS hunting the East

    – Is naming deer weird?

    – A dream whitetail hunt?

    – Getting garholed

    -And much, much more!

    TFB Podcast Roundup 14: Prepare for Fall Hunting Edition

    TFB Podcast Roundup 14: Prepare For Fall Hunting Edition

    Listen to the Wired to Hunt Podcast with Mark Kenyon on themeateater.com

    Gun Talk Radio: Remington Core-Lokt Tipped Range Report | Gun Talk Hunt

    Length: 42 Minutes

    Subjects: Gun Talk has on Joel Hodgdon from Remington Ammunition to talk about his recent experiences and observations from hunting with the popular Core-Lokt Tipped ammunition

    Remington Ammunition’s Joel Hodgdon talks Core-Lokt Tipped, an antelope field report, and more with Gun Talk’s Kevin “KJ” Jarnagin. This Gun Talk Hunt is brought to you by Tetra Hearing, Benelli, Brownells, Silencer Central, Remington Ammunition, Springfield Armory, Timney Triggers, Lockdown, Smith & Wesson, and Hodgdon Powder.

    TFB Podcast Roundup 14: Prepare for Fall Hunting Edition

    TFB Podcast Roundup 14: Prepare For Fall Hunting Edition

    Listen to the Gun Talk Radio Hunt Podcast: Remington Core-Lokt Tipped Range Report | Gun Talk Hunt on lybsyn.

    Vortex Nation Podcast Episode 204: Aging Deer, Before and After the Shot, with NDA

    Length: 74 Minutes

    Subjects: How to properly age deer before and after the shot to avoid costly mistakes and round out your knowledge base as a hunter

    Big antlers, old deer, right? Maybe. A lot goes into accurately aging deer on the hoof and after a successful harvest. Mark and Jim track down (pun intended) the National Deer Association for a biology lessen for the ages. From body characteristics to tooth wear and cementum annuli (the heck is that?), you’ll be a deer aging expert when you’re done.

    This one could be especially helpful or relevant to you if you’re a die-hard conservationist who is vested in keeping the deer population at its peak for future generations.

    TFB Podcast Roundup 14: Prepare for Fall Hunting Edition

    TFB Podcast Roundup 14: Prepare For Fall Hunting Edition

    Listen to the Vortex Nation Podcast on YouTube for the full experience. 


    As Always, More POdcasts next week

    Thanks for stopping by to listen to this week’s hunting-themed podcast roundup. If you’ve recently heard any great podcasts surrounding hunting, then feel free to let us know down in the comments. Thanks as always for reading TFB.

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    New UZI Pro Stock Adapter from Midwest IndustriesThe Firearm Blog

    Midwest Industries has just introduced a product that UZI Pro owners can use to increase the useability of their rare firearm – the UZI Pro Stock Adapter. The UZI Pro Stock Adapter is a direct mount adapter that allows the secure attachment of either a stock or pistol stabilizing brace or other Picatinny attachments like sling mounts. Although the UZI Pro is now discontinued, owners of the modernized subgun can now more confidently use their pistols with greater accuracy and versatility.

    More UZI Pro Articles @ TFB:

    New UZI Pro Stock Adapter from Midwest Industries

    New UZI Pro Stock Adapter from Midwest Industries

    Midwest Industries UZI Pro Stock Adaptor Features

    • Easy installation
    • Made to fit IWI US UZI Pro firearms
    • Constructed from Hard Coat Anodized 6061 Aluminum
    • Adds section of picatinny rail to back of receiver for stocks, arm braces, and
    • sling adaptors
    • Made in the USA

    It’s time to make the UZI Pro all that it can be. The UZI Pro Stock Adaptor from Midwest Industries securely mounts onto the rear of the receiver with ease, allowing you to customize your UZI Pro like never before with aftermarket collapsible stocks, braces, and other Picatinny rail attachments. Like all Midwest products, this adaptor is built to withstand a lifetime of use, proudly made in the USA by American workers.

    New UZI Pro Stock Adapter from Midwest Industries

    While this may be more of a niche addition to the Midwest Industries lineup, I’m sure those that were able to get a hold of the IWI UZI Pro before its discontinuation will be happy to have the option to attach either stock for their From 1 UZI Pro or a pistol stabilizing brace. The adaptor is made from solid materials, is hard coat anodized, and seems to place the attachment point at a reasonable height to make the iron sights useful while using a brace or stock. If you’d like to pick up a Midwest Industries UZI Pro Stock Adaptor they are sold on http://midwestindustriesinc.com for $54.95 (free shipping on orders over $150).

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    CCI 9mm 115 Grain FMJ 250 Rounds & FREE Range Bag …just $114.99


    Disclosure: Some of the links below are affiliate links, meaning at no additional cost to you, Ammoland will earn a commission if you click through and make a purchase.

    USA – -(Ammoland.com)- Trueshotgunclub.com has CCI 9mm 115 Grain FMJ in 250 Round boxes & FREE Range Bag all for just $114.99. That is $0.459 each a round.

    CCI 9mm 115 Grain FMJ 250 Rounds

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    Weight 9 lbs

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    Bullet Weight 115 Grain

    Caliber 9mm

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    Quantity 250

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    Ammo Instock: CCI 9mm 115 Grain FMJ 250 Rounds & FREE Range Bag …just $114.99

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    POTD: Mali – “Speak Softly & Carry A Big Stick” -The Firearm Blog

    Hille James Combat Photographer appears again in our Photo Of The Day, a welcome return. We’re used to seeing his great photos from Afghanistan, but this time he appears from an unexpected place: Mali, a landlocked country in the Saharan and Sahelian regions. Above we can see two Dutch Special Forces soldiers. The shooting position is rather unusual, but should still work quite well. With a good support, usually with the help of a good bipod, you can get far. If you add the support of a good spotter with a set of good binoculars, you’re all set.

    The caption comes from the “Big stick ideology” and former President Theodore Roosevelt’s foreign policy: “speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far.

    Hille, if you’re reading this, we look forward to more great images.


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    Understanding Auto-5 Friction Ring OrientationThe Firearm Blog

    Welcome everyone to the TFB Armorer’s Bench! As mentioned in the little blurb, this series will focus on a lot of home armorer and gunsmith activities. In this article sponsored by WheelerTiptonCaldwell, and Frankford Arsenal, I happened to do a little maintenance on an old Browning Auto-5 that I own and while disassembling and reassembling, I thought to myself that it may be beneficial if I did an Armorer’s Bench on how the friction rings work and the proper way of setting them up in accordance with whatever load you intend to use. When I say “friction rings” I may be referring to the recoil assembly as a whole purely for simplification. All that being said, let’s dive right into proper Auto-5 friction ring orientation!

    TFB Armorer’s Bench: Auto-5 Friction Ring Orientation

    Welcome to our recurring series of Armorer’s Bench which is made possible and brought to you by WheelerTiptonCaldwell, and Frankford Arsenal who are our sponsors. Here, we at TFB hope to inform, entertain, and even inspire any would-be gunsmith or armorer out there. Ideally, with the information I provide and with the help of our sponsors, you can have some useful knowledge pertaining to the conservation and improvement of firearms technology while at the same time sharing experiences and teaching each other new tips and tricks along the way in the comments. Digging deep into what it is to be an armorer or gunsmith has significance but what is important is what those people do to show they’ve earned that title. I am happy to share my experiences and knowledge and hope it is informative!

    Make your personal safety a priority:

    1. Practice proper gun safety. Always make sure before the firearm hits your bench that it is unloaded and safe to be handled.
    2. Wear the proper safety equipment. The main one would be safety glasses (decent ones) since parts are often under spring tension and you may work with high RPM tools. Other honorable mentions would be latex gloves or a respirator when working with potentially harmful solvents and oils. Also hearing protection when working with loud machinery or test-firing firearms.
    3. Modifications, alterations, and customizations will void your firearm’s warranty 9.5 times out of 10. Please take that into consideration before attempting any at-home gunsmithing.
    4. If you are unsure about proper safety practices, disassembly procedures, or warranty standards, stop, put down the tools, and consult a competent gunsmith.

    How Does it Work?: Auto-5 Friction Ring Orientation

    The Auto-5 system (different from the modern A5) is a long recoiling action. The Remington Model 11 is a licensed copy of the Auto-5 and this information can be used similarly. With the Auto-5 being a long recoiling system that means that the barrel is made to follow the bolt backward after the cartridge is fired. When the bolt gets to its ideal position it will halt and forward spring tension will unlock the bolt from the barrel and launch the barrel back forward. This ensures that the bolt does not open before the pressures in the barrel become safe.

    The Auto-5 friction rings and recoil system (located under the handguard) are basically a linear brake system. As the barrel travels backward it fights a series of rings and a large spring. This effectively slows the barrel and bolt down enough to clear pressure from the barrel and also maintain a cycling operation. This operation can be impacted by a change in shotshell loads (like going from light to heavy) which is why changing the orientation of the recoil system is necessary.

    Why Does it Matter?: Auto-5 Friction Ring Orientation

    Besides potential cycling issues, the Auto-5 can BEAT ITSELF TO DEATH if the correct orientation is not selected for the correct load. What I mean by this is if your shotgun is set for light loads or set up incorrectly altogether and a heavy or magnum load is introduced once or several times, the bolt and barrel’s mass will be smacking into the rear of the receiver (and inducing some harsh recoil). This pounding of the back of the receiver is why you may come across an Auto-5 with the “humpback” receiver cracked or even broke/burst open. Be careful!!!

    Auto-5 Friction Ring

    Note: Before moving on to field stripping, I wanted to mention that there is no need to lube up any part of the recoil system. You may clean and protect it from rust if need be but make sure it is not lubed up at all. This includes the magazine tube itself. The recoil system requires friction to function properly. Introducing a substance (lube) that gets rid of friction or eases the movement of metal parts will result in constant issues and malfunctions and may even harm your receiver with excess movement. There are a few uncommon reasons to lube the magazine tube in order to aid in cycling but this is typically when a gun is dirty enough to slow down.

    Field Stripping: Auto-5 Friction Ring Orientation

    Field stripping an Auto-5 is pretty simple. Obviously, make sure everything is safe and unloaded and you are wearing proper PPE if you choose to attempt this. Start by locking the charging handle to the rear. Then begin by putting the butt pad on the floor with the muzzle pointed to the ceiling.

    Auto-5 Friction Ring

    Once this is done you should be able to push or slide the barrel slightly into the receiver. You do not need to go far but by all means, feel out how the system works manually. Continue to hold the barrel in this position until the magazine tube cap is off.

    Auto-5 Friction Ring

    With the barrel pushed into the receiver about half an inch, the magazine tube cap should be able to be screwed off. If you do not push the barrel into the receiver while doing this the cap will be extremely hard to unscrew since you are fighting spring pressure.

    Auto-5 Friction Ring

    Removal of the magazine tube cap will allow the barrel and forend to come off.

    Note: Be extremely gentle with the forend since they are thin and fragile and prone to cracks and splits.

    Auto-5 Friction Ring

    With the magazine tube cap, barrel, and forend of the magazine tube take note of how the rings and spring sit on the tube. This is changeable and the whole basis of the article…welcome to the show.

    Auto-5 Friction Ring

    Here we have a Recoil Spring (giant spring), a Friction Ring (a thin steel ring with a beveled inner face), a Friction Piece (bronze c-shaped cylinder), and a Friction Spring (c-shaped spring steel that is around the Friction Piece when assembled – no need to take it apart).

    Auto-5 Friction Ring

    Quick Disclaimer: Auto-5 Friction Ring Orientation

    The following recoil system setups are ones that I pulled straight from a Browning armorer’s manual when I worked as a gunsmith at FN America (Browning, Winchester, and FN are sister companies). That being said, these are what I have known, witnessed, and believe to be correct. I double-checked my notes and everything seems to be as it was in the manual but I am only human and the manual was quite old…It had a Cutts Compensator recoil setup for goodness sake.

    Side Note: I apologize for the sticky notes and my poor handwriting. My sleep-deprived brain forgot that I could insert information into the pictures in post. Bear with me!

    Light Load Orientation: Auto-5 Friction Ring Orientation

    The light load orientation is where you should be at with most generic target loads and trap loads. Some Auto-5 shotguns literally were called a “light twelve” and would come with this set up from the factory. The friction ring is all the way back against the receiver and the beveled edge is facing the receiver. The bronze friction piece also has a beveled edge and that one faces toward the barrel (the barrel itself has a corresponding beveled face built-in. The spring is separating the friction piece and friction ring.

    Auto-5 Friction Ring

    Heavy Load Orientation: Auto-5 Friction Ring Orientation

    For heavy loads, the friction ring gets moved up to the end of the magazine tube with the friction piece. The friction spring’s flat face is facing the spring which is in turn against the receiver. The friction piece remains where it was in the Light Loads position, beveled side facing the barrel.

    Auto-5 Friction Ring

    High-Velocity Steel Load Orientation: Auto-5 Friction Ring Orientation

    For higher velocity “steel” loads it is extremely similar to heavy loads but the friction ring’s beveled edge is facing the recoil spring instead of the friction piece.

    Auto-5 Friction Ring

    Magnum Load Orientation: Auto-5 Friction Ring Orientation

    This one is tough without the extra pieces needed but I will try my best to thoroughly explain. For magnum loads two additional friction rings and one magnum bronze friction piece (with friction spring on it) are necessary. All five pieces are toward the front by the barrel and the recoil spring still contacting the receiver. In order from muzzle to receiver, it goes friction piece, friction ring, friction ring, friction piece, friction ring. The first friction piece is the same as all so far where the beveled edge is facing the barrel. The next two friction rings work in tandem. Each of their beveled faces is facing outward. One toward the muzzle and one toward the receiver. Their flat sides are facing each other. The second friction piece is actually skinnier than the other one pictured. This friction piece‘s beveled side faces the muzzle in order to fit into the friction ring next to it. The last friction ring’s beveled side faces the recoil spring.

    Auto-5 Friction Ring

    Cutts Compensator Orientation: Auto-5 Friction Ring Orientation

    This one probably is not applicable to most Auto-5 shotguns out there but I bet someone has a Cutts on theirs and is in need of a quick tip. Here we go!  As shown below, the bronze friction piece has moved to the receiver with its beveled side facing the recoil spring. The friction ring itself is in front of the recoil spring with its beveled side facing the muzzle of the gun.

    Auto-5 Friction Ring

    Final Thoughts: Auto-5 Friction Ring Orientation

    Well, there you have it! The full list of potential recoil system setups for the Auto-5 and applicable variations. I enjoy working with these old gats and their quirks and shortfalls are part of what makes them unique and beautiful. Take care of the history you have, treat it well, and enjoy it. Be safe out there and I will see you next week!

    Auto-5 Friction Ring

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    Michigan: House Committee Advances CPL Reform Bill


    Michigan voted to reduce the penalty for law-abiding citizens who forget to renew their Concealed Pistol License in certain instances. IMG NRA-ILA

    U.S.A. -(AmmoLand.com)- Last Tuesday, the House Judiciary Committee voted 10-1 to advance HB 4003, to reduce the penalty for law-abiding citizens who forget to renew their Concealed Pistol License in certain instances. It now goes to the full House for further consideration. Please contact your state representative and ask them to SUPPORT HB 4003.

    CLICK HERE TAKE ACTION!

    House Bill 4003 reduces the offense of carrying a handgun on an expired CPL from a felony under current law to a civil fine of $330, as long as it’s within one year of expiration and the person is still legally eligible for a CPL. Permanently stripping Second Amendment rights from an otherwise law-abiding citizen who forgets to renew their CPL does not improve public safety.

    Again, please contact your state representative and ask them to SUPPORT HB 4003.


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    Established in 1975, the Institute for Legislative Action (ILA) is the “lobbying” arm of the National Rifle Association of America. ILA is responsible for preserving the right of all law-abiding individuals in the legislative, political, and legal arenas, to purchase, possess, and use firearms for legitimate purposes as guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Visit: www.nra.org

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